The 5 Most Common Ford 351 Cleveland Engine Problems
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Ford’s 351 Cleveland engine is a small-block 5.8L V8 produced from 1969 until 1974. The 351C was built to be a high-performance engine. However, it was actually a bit less capable than the 351W, it’s less performance oriented brother. It also doesn’t quite have the same reputation for reliability.
The 351 Cleveland’s are known to suffer from cracked heads, bearing starvation, worn valve guides, weak blocks, and failed thermostats. We’re going to discuss each of these in-depth below as well as provide our thoughts and experience on overall reliability.
Ford 351 Cleveland Engine Problems
- Cracked Heads
- Worn Valve Guides
- Thin Cylinder Walls & Block Weakness
- Thermostat Failure & Overheating
- Bearing Failure from Oil Starvation
1. Cracked Head Problems
One of the most material improvements of the 351C over the 351W was the cylinder heads. Two versions of the cylinder head were produced. 351C’s with two-barrel carburetors had larger ports and valves. 351C’s with the four-barrel carburetor had even larger ports and canted valves. Both versions were flowed significantly more air than the 351W heads. This is the reason many enthusiasts combine the 351W block with the 351C head for performance applications, making a 351 Clevor.
Despite the performance prowess of the 351C heads, their weakness was cracking. However, in reality their weakness is overheating. Overheating is the most common cause of cracked heads in the 351C engine. While thermostat failure is a common cause of the overheating, bad radiators and radiator caps, failed water pumps, and coolant leaks are also common overheating causes.
351 Cleveland cylinder head cracks most commonly occur across the exhaust seat and in the lifter valley. While cracks frequently occur on bored engines running significant amounts of power, it is also a common problem on stock engines.
Cracked Head Symptoms
- Coolant leaks
- Engine overheating
- Cylinder misfires
- Poor acceleration and performance
- Rough idling
2. Worn Valve Guides
Oil starvation is a common problem on 351 Clevelands which can cause the valve guides to receive inadequate amounts of oil and therefore wear down more quickly than they normally would. If the guides are excessively worn the valves can get off-track and close against the seat at a slight angle, eventually leading to cracked valves.
While worn valves guides can be machined and repaired, it requires significant skill. Machinists frequently use a process called reaming in which they increase the valve guide bore and install thicker valve guides. Reaming can be a cheaper way to replace worn out valve guides compared to buying brand new heads.
Worn Valve Guide Symptoms
- Smoke coming from exhaust (caused by oil leaking into combustion chamber)
- Excess oil consumption
- Cylinder misfires
- Poor performance
- Lack of acceleration
3) Thin Cylinder Walls
The 351 Clevor is a moniker given by enthusiasts when the block of a 351W is coupled with the heads from a 351C. Blocks from the Windsor re preferred because Cleveland blocks are weaker and hold less power potential.
Despite having a bigger and heavier block, the 351C was cast with very thin cylinder walls. Because of the thinness of the walls, performance potential is limited. Overboring or trying to push too much power on a stock block can result in the cylinder walls cracking.
Cracked blocks is not an issue with stock engines. However, with the number of people modifying these engines I wanted to point out the power limitations of the block itself.
Maximum Overbore
Ford Overbore Recommendation: 0.030″ overbore maximum
Performance Community Recommendation: 0.040″ overbore maximum
Maximum Overbore: 0.060″ overbore (not recommended)
If you are concerned about over-boring or block strength, you should have the cylinder sonic tested. Sonic testing measures the depth of the cylinder walls. Minimum reliable cylinder wall thickness on a 351 Cleveland is 0.12″. This level is considered reliable within the performance community while anything more thin than that is likely to break in high horsepower applications.
4) Thermostat Failure & Overheating
The thermostat on the 351C is unique. Rather than flowing coolant through the intake manifold, it flows coolant directly from the head to the block. Coolant then flows into the chamber below the thermostat. The thermostat has a restrictor plate, or “bypass orifice plate” located underneath the thermostat. When the thermostat is closed coolant flows through this restrictor plate and into the water pump for recirculation.
Once the engine warms up, the restrictor plate closes and the majority of the coolant flows into the radiator to be cooled down before being recirculated. If the restrictor bypass plate is missing then the water will continue flowing directly to the water pump instead of the radiator causing constant overheating.
The thermostat itself is unique in that it is responsible for sealing the bypass valve when the thermostat is in the open position. If you use a standard thermostat on these engines, the bypass valve will not be blocked, leading to overheating. Additionally, even with the proper thermostat installed, if you pull the restrictor plate out, your engine will overheat.
Thermostat Failure Symptoms
- Engine overheating
- Coolant leaks around thermostat housing
- Rapid temp increases (thermostat stuck closed)
Replacement Options
The most important thing is making sure you replace the thermostat with the proper 351C thermostat. A standard Ford thermostat will not cut it. Additionally, do not remove the restrictor plate when you swap the thermostat. The restrictor plate looks like it impedes coolant flow which leads a lot of people to remove it. It is supposed to and will cause overheating if removed.
5) Oil Starvation & Main Bearing Failure
Ford’s engineers focused on cost savings with the 351C engine. One area that they determined they could cut costs was in the oiling system. While the 351W had 3 main oil galleries, the 351C was reduced down to 2. The design of the oiling system sent oil first to the cam bearings instead of the main bearings. While this generally wouldn’t be an issue on low-performance H-code variants, the high-performance variants were built for power and high RPMs. These high performance applications were where oil starvation was the greatest, resulting in poor oil flow to the mains and possible bearing failure.
To compound the problem, the lifter bores had excess clearance which would cause oil to leak from the lifter bores. This lead to further oil starvation issues as it worsened oil flow to the mains.
While oil starvation usually only happens at high RPMs in the 351C, it is a limitation worth pointing out for those looking to run high power applications. However, there are oiling system modifications that can allow these engines to run reliably at high RPMs. For those looking to delve further into engine lubrication, here is a great article on 351C engine oiling.
Main Bearing Failure Symptoms
- Noises from engine / rod knock
- Low oil pressure
- Metal shavings in oil
351 Cleveland Reliability
The 351 Cleveland has two achilles heels: heat and power. While a stock one is a reliable engine they start to become more problematic once additional power is added. The thin cylinder walls create potential reliability issues and block cracks with overboring, and the oiling system is inadequate without modifications. Additionally, the cooling systems on these cars are not adequate for significant power and will need to be upgraded for performance applications. With all that being said, these engines can be highly reliable even in high horsepower applications with adequate supporting mods.
Bone stock the 351 Cleveland is a stout engine and likely shouldn’t have any issue with cracked heads, blocks, main bearings, internals, etc.
Overall, the 351C is a reliable engine but will take a significant amount of modifications and additional $$ to be reliable in high horsepower applications.
Many thanks for this article! It clarifies a lot of important things. In fact, I just replaced my radiator, tubes and hoses after I had a cracked cylinder head only to find that the previous owner had removed the bypass plate. Another guy I know found the same in his car. Apparently for reasons that are completely beyond me, that might be relatively common that people removed the bypass plate. Could you comment on which thermostat temp you would recommend? they are available with 160, 180, 195 Fahrenheit. I guess technically it does not matter as long as they open the radiator circuit while closing the bypass before the water boils.
No advertisment intended, but flowkooler sells a kit of robertshaw thermostat + bypass plate for a fair price.
very very good information thanks i have a 1970 mach 1 w a 351 cleveland cross bolt main w/87000 miles on it can you send or put info on it thank you
This is not exactly correct information coming from a Cleveland enthusiast who has built several of them. 351W and Cleveland weight the same, no cracking unless its hot it gets hot because a SCB guy forgets to put the restrictor in for the thermostat and they out flow all factory heads except the Hemi and the Boss 429. The Boss 302 is a Cleveland head on a 302
The “Cleveland engine” was manufactured in part in Australia at the Ford Geelong plant in Victoria from 1972, and in 1975 they were fully made here. They were 351 (5.8) and 302 (4.9) which were both manufactured up until 1982, and were still used in trucks until 1985
I added Riseline Super Cool to my anti freeze 20/20. Country Squire aluminum radiator with custom made aluminum shroud, twin electric fans to come on at 140 degrees, Flow Kool by pass plate with thermostat 160 degree, Flow Kool high volume water pump. Viola runs at 160 degrees. As far as the piling problem, I run braided line from the oil filter by pass fitting to the oil pressure sending switch this dumps oil to the rods and mains. Hope this helpful to all 351Cleveland enthusiasts.
Bonjour, très intéressant. Je souhaite acheté un ranchero squire de 1970 , 5.8 L :M Cleveland , les carburateur ont été changé pour plus de puissance. Mais pour combien de cubes est-il construit en usine? Entre 209 et 409! Merci pour votre aide.
I did everything you said and here is my crazy stuff the block measures 4.00 and looks great the crank says.10 .10 and measure shows it the brgs are falling out why would somebody put junk in a great block heads are closed chamber 4V cam was shot on 2 cylinders had a Edelbrock intake and water pump cam gear wore out I have all the roller can Blue Thunder intake can’t find anybody to clean up the block so I’m looking for a 572 460 from Ford and need to know who’s AOD will hold it this is going to be a 100 plus car just need somebody to send me to the right parts I had a new 30k paint job and am doing front and rear suspension plus full leather interior but don’t want to toe it to shows I will see about getting somebody to build the Cleveland if the block is as good as it looks and sell it someday any help with engine transmission ect. HELP