Chrysler 3.6L Pentastar Overheating – Causes & Solutions
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Since the 3.6L V6 first arrived on the scene in 2010, it has been used in over 10 million Jeep, Ram, and Dodge vehicles. The 3.6 Pentastar is known for its longevity and impressive factory performance. While the Pentastar V6 is unquestionably reliable, every engine is susceptible to faults every once in a while. For the most part, the Pentastar doesn’t have any critical design flaws that cause major headaches for Jeep, Ram, and Dodge owners.
With that being said, the 3.6L Pentastar’s cooling system is known to be subpar and can fail with short or no notice. That can lead to more significant issues, like overheating, down the line if left unchecked. In this guide, we’ll cover the most common problems with the FCA 3.6L Pentastar’s cooling system and discuss how those issues can be fixed.
3.6L Pentastar Overheating – Factory Cooling System Design
Before we jump into the primary causes and symptoms of 3.6L Pentastar overheating, let’s first talk a bit about the factory Pentastar cooling system design. It is widely known that FCA designed the Pentastar to operate at much higher temperatures than most engines.
For instance, the 3.6 Pentastar’s thermostat doesn’t open until around 221 degrees. Additionally, the radiator fan doesn’t kick on to its highest setting until around 230 degrees. In most other engines, the thermostat will open around the 180-195 degrees Fahrenheit range. The high operating temperatures of these components don’t leave very much breathing room between normal operating temperature and overheating. This is one reason why overheating is common among FCA Pentastar-equipped Jeeps, Rams, and Dodges. That is especially true for abnormally hot days.
Chrysler is aware of the high operating temperatures for the FCA Pentastar. They claim that this was an intentional design decision, but many enthusiasts say that that was a questionable decision. Others claim that the Chrysler engineers learned about the problem too late in the engine’s development and simply didn’t want to rectify the issue. Regardless, the high “normal operating temperature” of the 3.6L V6 is a major reason for 3.6L Pentastar overheating issues down the line.
Overheating Symptoms
Overall, it is pretty easy to identify an overheating 3.6L Pentastar V6. The most obvious indicator that your engine is overheating is the temperature gauge in your dash. As we covered in the previous section, the 3.6L Pentastar was designed to run at a higher operating temperature than most other engines. As a result, it isn’t uncommon to see the temp gauge needle extending to nearly the ¾ mark. It isn’t until the needle reaches the highlighted red area that you know that the engine has exceeded its normal operating temperature.
Sometimes, a 3.6L Pentastar overheating event will cause steam to come from under the hood. This is an indicator that the expansion tank might have cracked. Depending on what coolant system component has failed, the engine will also likely be leaking fluid onto the ground. It is important to take note of where the coolant is leaking from so that you can identify the component that you’ll need to replace. A leak towards the front of the engine can indicate a radiator leak or damage or a water pump leak.
If a 3.6L Pentastar overheats, it will trigger an engine fault code. A P0217 engine code is a giveaway that the engine has reached a high internal temperature due to a failed cooling system component. There will likely be other accompanying codes as well.
Ultimately, if you notice any of these symptoms, especially if you notice that your vehicle’s temp gauge needle is in the highlighted red section, stop the vehicle as soon as you can safely. The longer you drive with an overheating Pentastar V6 the more damage is likely to be done.
3.6L Pentastar Overheating Causes
Generally speaking, when a factory engine overheats, there is typically something wrong with the engine’s cooling system. That isn’t surprising, as high internal temperatures are exactly what an engine’s cooling system is designed to combat.
The 3.6L Pentastar, as well as nearly every internal combustion engine under the sun, uses a circuit of coolant pipes, a thermostat, a radiator, a water pump, and multiple sensors to pump coolant throughout the engine, drawing heat away from hot internal components. If there is an issue with any of these cooling system components, parts of the 3.6L Pentastar can get hotter than they are meant to, potentially causing severe damage.
Unfortunately, the 3.6L Pentastar V6 is known to have multiple weaknesses within its cooling system. Some of the issues arise due to the way in which Chrysler casts their engines. Other issues stem from parts degrading over time, perhaps more rapidly than with other engines. Overall, the main causes for a 3.6L Pentastar overheating are as follows:
- Water Pump / Thermostat Failure
- Clogged or Damaged FCA Pentastar Radiator
- Inadequate Airflow to the Radiator
Water Pump/Thermostat Failure
One of the most common reasons that a 3.6L Pentastar overheats is a failing water pump or thermostat. Both components play a critical role in keeping the FCA V6 in its normal temperature range.
As the engine runs, the water pump continuously circulates coolant, drawing it from the radiator and pushing it through the engine block and cylinder head. This process helps to dissipate heat from the engine and keep it operating at a safe temperature. While the Pentastar water pump circulates the coolant, the thermostat is a temperature-sensitive valve that regulates the flow of coolant through the engine. It is typically located between the engine and the radiator, and it opens and closes as needed to maintain the engine’s temperature within a certain range.
If the Pentastar V6’s water pump fails or is leaking profusely, not enough coolant gets circulated through the engine. This means that heat isn’t drawn away from the engine, causing it to overheat. Thermostats fail a bit differently. Sometimes a failing thermostat will fail to open at the desired coolant temperature, preventing coolant from continuing through the system. This will cause your 3.6L Pentastar to overheat. Inversely, thermostats can get stuck open which will prevent the engine from reaching normal operating temperature quickly.
While these are wear and tear parts, the Pentastar’s abnormally high operating temps can cause these parts to wear faster than normal.
Failing Water Pump/Thermostat Fix
Water Pump Price: $173.00
Thermostat Price: $39.92
When it comes to replacing or repairing broken cooling system components, it is a good idea to have them professionally replaced if you aren’t familiar with automotive maintenance. The main reason is that the cooling system is pressurized and needs to be bled after a major service which can be difficult for beginners. As we’ve already covered, the cooling system is vital in the proper operation of the engine. In general, it’s better to have a trained technician replace the Pentastar water pump or thermostat than to risk further complications later.
With that being said, it is possible to replace both components without any specialty tools if you are comfortable performing a DIY job. If you are interested in doing the job yourself, check out this video that does a good job of walking you through the process:
As far as overall costs are concerned, 3.6L Pentastar cooling system repairs can be somewhat costly if you take your vehicle to a certified FCA repair facility. If it is determined that you need your 3.6 Pentastar water pump replaced, a dealer would likely charge around $500 for parts and labor. The 3.6L V6 water pump itself runs around $170, so that is the approximate cost of a DIY repair. Replacing a Pentastar thermostat is a bit less expensive, averaging around $400 for a dealer install. The thermostat itself only costs around $50. The installation is a bit more involved than the water pump, though.
3.6L Pentastar Overheating – Clogged or Damaged Radiator
Aside from the water pump and thermostat, the radiator is the most critical component of the 3.6L Pentastar’s cooling system. The job of the radiator is to transfer the heat from the engine coolant to the surrounding air. It does this by using a series of thin tubes and fins, which increase the surface area of the radiator and provide more opportunities for the heat to escape.
There is a unique problem that 3.6L Pentastar engines face as far as their radiator is concerned. The issue stems from the sand casting process that FCA uses to manufacture its engines. The aluminum heads found on the 3.6L FCA Pentastar are made by pouring aluminum into a sand mold. While this works well and very little residual sand is left behind, some leftover sand can stay in the components and enter the cooling system later down the line. This can cause sludge and deposits throughout the cooling system.
Other debris can enter the cooling system through the radiator and other areas of the cooling system. This debris can get caught in the radiator itself and stop coolant from flowing through it. This causes major issues for the rest of the cooling system which relies on the radiator to supply cool coolant.
The radiator is one of the most forward-facing components in the 3.6L V6 engine bay. As such, it is common for road debris to damage the structure of the radiator itself. Radiators can also be damaged in collisions or if it scrapes on a piece of high terrain. These holes can cause coolant to leak, leading to potential 3.6L Pentastar overheating issues.
Clogged or Damaged Radiator Fix
3.6L Pentastar Radiator Cost: $90.00
Unlike with the water pump and thermostat, you don’t necessarily have to purchase an entirely new radiator if the one in your engine is clogged. It is possible to remove the radiator and remove the debris that has collected in it. There are numerous ways to clean a radiator, but we’ll link a video that shows the process in detail below.
With that being said, the story is different if your 3.6L FCA V6 radiator is damaged. If there are significant holes caused by debris, they can cause the radiator to lose overall effectiveness. Chances are there will be coolant leaks if there is damage to the bottom of the radiator. If either of these is the case, chances are that you’ll need to replace the radiator entirely. Left to a dealership, the replacement could cost upwards of $1,000 including parts and labor. If done DIY, the cost would probably be closer to $200-$250.
Inadequate Airflow to the Radiator
In line with the radiator issues that we have already covered, one often unforeseen cause of 3.6L Pentastar overheating is a lack of airflow to the radiator due to aftermarket additions. The 3.6L Pentastar is used in a number of off-road capable vehicles like the Jeep Wrangler and Ram 1500. As a result, frontal modifications like large winches, lightbars, and trail lights are often mounted on these vehicles.
Some of these add-ons are so large that they block off a large portion of the front air inlets which allows air to reach the radiator. If air can’t travel effectively through the front of the vehicle, the cooling system might fail to work correctly. This is a common occurrence, with many Chrysler 3.6L vehicles talking about it on the forums.
One common fix is to install a breathable aftermarket hood, which gives air another route into the engine bay. Some of the most common brands include AEV, MV8, and Crawler Concept. Some Chrysler V6 owners also opt to remove their inner fender lining which also allows more air into the engine compartment.
I have a 2013 3.6 penastar…in my ram..overheating problem..temp runs from 195 to 226 f. Then drops then back n forth …I have changed thermostat flushe engine now I’m replacing radiator and thermostat again…there is no fluid in oil ..but still runs hot. These aluminum. motors a junk …what can I do to resolve this overheating…
Hi Steve, thanks for reaching out. I’m sorry to hear that you are experiencing some of the issues outlined in this article. In terms of your operating temps, it isn’t uncommon to see properly functioning 3.6 Pentastars running in the 195-226 degree window that you described. This has to do with the abnormally high factory thermostat opening temperature of 203 degrees. Since the high-speed fans don’t kick on until around the 230-degree mark, it is normal for the 3.6 Pentastar to operate in the window that you described, especially on hot days. Obviously, that isn’t ideal, and many Pentastar owners find ways to lower that window. One solution is to install a thermostat with a lower activation temperature. Rippmods.com sells a very popular 180-degree thermostat which will help keep temps down. You can find that here: https://rippmods.com/products/2012-2016-pentastar-180-deg-thermostat#:~:text=The%20RIPP%20thermostat%20increases%20the,very%20hot%20210%C2%B0F.
It is important to note that you will have to have the low-speed, medium-speed, and high-speed fan settings re-scaled for the new thermostat via a tune. Outside of a lower-temp thermostat, some other 3.6 Pentastar owners choose to upgrade their cooling fans to something more powerful, or tune the existing ones to have a lower activation point. Hope this helps!
I’ve been working on cars all my life so I have a pretty good knowledge after 60 yrs even the newer ones too All that’s been done is to add more sensors and computers to try to make it run more efficent One that hasn’t changed is you have to keep an engine from running to cold or to hot otherwise you will be in big trouble You have to take into account places where extreme temperatures exist Everyone knows that an cars compartment amplifies the temperature so when the outside air is about 80 the temp in side the car will rise to 150 or more And in places where the ambient temp rises well over a 100 or more that makes the vehicle sometimes as high as 400 degrees Mostly thru the southern states but the northern are not except especially during the summer months with climate change is going to get hotter And when you turn on the AC in your car that increases the heat in your engine compartment That’s nothing new either ,, Heat has always been a problem ,, So you have to reduce it or face the consequences So , when the engine reaches waters boiling point of 212 degrees do to the design especially in high heat areas you are going to get some unwanted problems Some manufactures say it’s okay for it to go as high as 250 degrees and if you use the AC probably higher
“It is important to note that you will have to have the low-speed, medium-speed, and high-speed fan settings re-scaled for the new thermostat via a tune. ”
How do i re-tune the fan speed settings? Is the something the dealership will have to perform?
Thanks!
Hi Gregg, thanks for reaching out! Unfortunately, it is unlikely that a Jeep or Chrysler dealer would be willing to alter the factory fan speed settings. The easiest way to do this is to purchase either a standalone 3.6 Pentastar tuner that allows for fan-speed setting adjustments or a standalone fan controller like this one offered by RpmExtreme.com Both of these methods will allow you to adjust fan speed settings in accordance with a lower-temp thermostat. If you aren’t familiar with using a tuner or fan controller, a local specialty shop that specializes in Jeep tuning and repair would likely be able to help you out! Let me know if you have any further questions
I have a 2014 Jeep Wrangler with automatic transmission and 4WD. I have been chasing overheating issues for years. I have replace one motor due to head gaskets going out at 128K miles. Put a 2017 engine in w/7K miles. No issues for a while until the thermostat stuck shut. Dealer replace as I was travelling, then another thermostat and heater core leak. fix both and all good for a 500 mile trip. Next morning the temp goes up to 245, so I turn the heater on and bring it back down. Then while heater is on I get no heat but temp creeps back up and heat comes back. This goes on back and forth for 2 days with the heater on and A/C on to get the fans to turn on sooner. Any idea what the hell is going on? I replaced the radiator last November as well.
Hi Bob,
Sorry to hear that overheating issues have been an issue for you for so long. It sounds like you’ve already taken care of some of the most common sources of issue, especially the thermostat. The fluctuation of the cabin heat working and not working sounds like air might be trapped in the cooling system. The easiest way to purge the air out of the system is by loosening the bleeder screw on the thermostat housing and refilling coolant into the main reservoir until you see coolant come out of the loose bleeder screw. I’ll link a video down below which shows the process. If you haven’t replaced the water pump yet, I would definitely look at that as a potential source of issue if bleeding the system doesn’t work. If none of that works, it is possible that there is damage to the head gasket from the thermostat getting stuck shut.
How to bleed the 3.6 Pentastar cooling system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRfpHlM7tY&t=1s&ab_channel=OnlineMechanicTips
Hope this helps,
Austin